Yes, sorry, I realize I might have sounded a bit ironic in my post.zeus_axel said:
However, I was seriously interested, and now that I see you say southern Stockholm, I'm even more interested!
Please send me a PM with details.
I’d like that here too!motives said:Yes, sorry, I realize I might have sounded a bit ironic in my post. However, I was seriously interested and now that I see you mention southern Sthlm, I’m even more interested!
PM sent!
To clarify, I see that I got a bit off track...
I have nothing against byggmax and don't think their stuff is worse. BUT, maybe you shouldn't just go to the nearest place and buy boards or anything else. With a bit of negotiation and asking, you can get the price down quite a bit.
So next time you need to buy a bit more stuff, get an account and ask for a better price.
To clarify, I see that I got a bit off track...
I have nothing against byggmax and don't think their stuff is worse. BUT, maybe you shouldn't just go to the nearest place and buy boards or anything else. With a bit of negotiation and asking, you can get the price down quite a bit.
So next time you need to buy a bit more stuff, get an account and ask for a better price.
If a building supply store has to offer a 20% discount to still be more expensive than Byggmax or Bauhaus, I will, on principle, gladly drive a few extra miles to Bauhaus.
I am probably an average customer, spending around 60-70,000 per year, exclusively at Bauhaus and K-Rauta in Örebro. At the Woody stores I've visited, the staff knew as little as at the larger ones. The difference is that at the larger stores, I don't expect them to know anything.
And free coffee at hardware stores? Is that an argument?
Nah, I value more that Bauhaus has some pleasant, both in appearance and small talk, girls.
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I am probably an average customer, spending around 60-70,000 per year, exclusively at Bauhaus and K-Rauta in Örebro. At the Woody stores I've visited, the staff knew as little as at the larger ones. The difference is that at the larger stores, I don't expect them to know anything.
And free coffee at hardware stores? Is that an argument?
Nah, I value more that Bauhaus has some pleasant, both in appearance and small talk, girls.
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K-rauta Örebro is very good; we always shop there for mom's and dad's apartment.
I think coffee is a good argument, it shows that they care about their customers. But of course, other factors come first. And they have both nice girls and guys where I shop. But whether they are attractive, I don't really care.
I think too many people go on the defensive about where they shop. I was just wondering how you do when you need to shop a lot. And pointed out that it's good to negotiate the price; you almost always benefit from it.
I think coffee is a good argument, it shows that they care about their customers. But of course, other factors come first. And they have both nice girls and guys where I shop. But whether they are attractive, I don't really care.
I think too many people go on the defensive about where they shop. I was just wondering how you do when you need to shop a lot. And pointed out that it's good to negotiate the price; you almost always benefit from it.
It wasn't my intention to defend any shop. Rather, I oppose having to ask for a discount to get roughly the same prices. I have a bit of difficulty with a store that throws around discounts so freely.
If I reach a point where I need a larger quantity of material at the same time, I would probably ask a smaller shop. But I would only buy there if they were remarkably cheaper.
It would be fun to compare some meter prices on items like studs when a smaller shop has given its generous discounts.
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If I reach a point where I need a larger quantity of material at the same time, I would probably ask a smaller shop. But I would only buy there if they were remarkably cheaper.
It would be fun to compare some meter prices on items like studs when a smaller shop has given its generous discounts.
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I see it as quite clever that you can go in and negotiate "good" prices, then the company makes a living off fooling people who aren't as quick-tongued and just pay.
It's probably the same with appliances, I've checked like crazy on price comparison sites to see what I should buy for the kitchen in my house build, everyone I know says I can go down to the local store and haggle the prices down to the same level as the cheapest on price comparison sites, then you have to wonder why this now local "super cheap" store doesn't just lower the prices so everyone would go there. But what is cheap seems to vary greatly from person to person, some people I've talked to who have renovated their kitchens have spent more money on appliances than my entire kitchen costs and they still insist that it was "cheap."
When you've spent 250,000 SEK on a kitchen and it looks like any Ikea kitchen, you must try to convince yourself that it was cheap.
It's probably the same with appliances, I've checked like crazy on price comparison sites to see what I should buy for the kitchen in my house build, everyone I know says I can go down to the local store and haggle the prices down to the same level as the cheapest on price comparison sites, then you have to wonder why this now local "super cheap" store doesn't just lower the prices so everyone would go there. But what is cheap seems to vary greatly from person to person, some people I've talked to who have renovated their kitchens have spent more money on appliances than my entire kitchen costs and they still insist that it was "cheap."
When you've spent 250,000 SEK on a kitchen and it looks like any Ikea kitchen, you must try to convince yourself that it was cheap.
My negotiation usually goes something like this:
-I need 200m of sewer pipes, what's the best price on that?
-I need pressure-treated wood, do you have anything I can get cheaply if I take the whole pallet/heap?
But I agree with you Pumba, especially about those who buy expensive kitchens.
-I need 200m of sewer pipes, what's the best price on that?
-I need pressure-treated wood, do you have anything I can get cheaply if I take the whole pallet/heap?
But I agree with you Pumba, especially about those who buy expensive kitchens.
How does this actually hang together? Is it a collaboration between the builders' merchants and the craftsmen where the merchants set a pretend price that only applies to those who don't ask for a discount and as a starting point for the craftsman's material billing, and in return, the craftsmen purchase their materials from the merchants?Tomas_P said:
That alone is an argument for buying everything at byggmax.
Since Byggmax has far from everything and sells what sells the most, they can obviously keep lower prices. I think they just cherry-pick since a "real" building supply store generally has all the dimensions and lengths in stock as well as a lot of different sheet materials in inventory. Keeping a lot in stock obviously costs, and therefore the price is slightly higher. Where I live, I'm lucky there is a family-owned building supply store that has a fantastic range, neat order, no discounts for anyone but low prices for everyone, cheaper than Byggmax on a lot of stuff, always 40% off windows, 300kr for delivery, and knowledgeable staff! That's what I call a building supply store!
When we were going to build a 75m2 deck, I looked around at different hardware stores. Some were cheaper on decking, others on support beams, etc. I checked out XL-bygg, Beijer, and a local Fredells store. The price ended up being about the same when you added everything together, and at the local firm, we could return what we didn't need when we were done, and we also got a lot of help with calculating quantities, help with dimensions, etc. In this way, it was easier to have an open account with a nearby company where you could go and pick up what you needed. Time is also money. Also, I think it's nice to support local traders as much as possible.
Here in Värmland, it seems that you get the Buildmax price on the timber if you get an account with the local retailer.Tomas_P said:
If you're buying larger quantities, it's usually cheaper at the regular building supply stores than at the discount warehouses.
Do you really think Byggmax is that cheap?
Since I am currently building a 300m2 stick-built house and am naturally frugal, I have compared prices a bit.
Stud wood/slat/lath/panel I bought for up to half the price compared to Byggmax and still got fine quality, was able to freely choose lengths and got free home delivery.
I also found cheaper chipboard/drywall elsewhere.
However, I am a big customer of Byggmax's foam sealant, they are hard to beat on price there
Since I am currently building a 300m2 stick-built house and am naturally frugal, I have compared prices a bit.
Stud wood/slat/lath/panel I bought for up to half the price compared to Byggmax and still got fine quality, was able to freely choose lengths and got free home delivery.
I also found cheaper chipboard/drywall elsewhere.
However, I am a big customer of Byggmax's foam sealant, they are hard to beat on price there
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