Yes if you use double insulated equipment.
 
MH1001, yes, this is the product I want to use.

It has 3 plugs but without grounding. It will be used in the living room for Apple TV, smart TV, TV digital box and an IP phone. All they don't have grounding and maybe only the smart-TV has.

One thing. Am I allowed to mount this 3-vägsuttag 16A wall plug (no grounding) combined with a 1-vägsuttag with grounding, on same wall? The electrician will accept this?
 
The three way Euro plug outlet is allowed to be mounted in the same room as grounded outlets. It could be argued that it is required to have an unconnected PE wire available in the junction box.

What is not allowed is to install the old style, round, ungrounded outlets in the same room as grounded outlets. http://elbutik.se/product.html/eljo-trend-2-vags-vagguttag-2?category_id=314
 
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i hope that you are doing this as a fully trained electrician in sweden
 
SBH - yes, I am familiar with these rules. I am just making sure that all the wires/plug are in place and a certified electrician will come and arrange everything. We are working using project on papers/drawings.

Thank you all for the information which you have provided to me! :)
 
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What do you think about my "improvisation", by cutting a normal dosa's legs and make a 4-fack dosa? :)

I could not find a better solution. Actually, these kind of models of Schneider Electric dosa are for mounting on gips walls, I guess...
 
Redigerat:
I will do... You could also have used for example Eljo VP-2 which has a passage between the boxes - no need for an external tube.

However, do you intend to use different systems in these boxes, power/audio/data? Then you need to have the necessary separation between those circuits.
 
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Bo.Siltberg, indeed, the Eljo VP-2 would be a better fit for my needs and it looks more a quadrate/square with perfect angles, instead of my round dosa used. Regarding my pictures, the order will be like this:

1 - 1x grounded 22VAC plug
2 - 3x1 non-grounded 220VAC plug (crossing on the other room)
3 - end TV plug
4 - 2x Internet wall plug

I guess that I am allowed to put grounded with non-grounded 220VAC plugs on same dosa, as long as the plug holes are protected (mechanically retractable with springs). Can you confirm?

What I want to use are these 2 products together on same dosa:

http://www.elbutik.se/product.html/exxact-vagguttag-1-vags-med-nattljus?category_id=15237
http://www.elbutik.se/product.html/exxact-vagguttag-3-v-klass-ii?category_id=15237
 
Redigerat:
Yeap, grounded and non-grounded euro-outlets can be installed in the same room (or in adjacent installations boxes). All outlets in Sweden are required to be child-proof (petskyddad in Swedish).

I guess the power cables comes down the wall in the left tube, and data & TV in the right? In that case, you don't need that interconnecting flex tube between dosa 2 and 3, right?
 
Bo.Siltberg: yes, you are right. The power cables are on left, while the TV&Internet are on right.
I've put that interconnecting flex just to be there; you never know.

By the way, the TV shield needs to be connected at the apartment's general grounding (green-yellow cable)?

Overall, my project is an intelligent flat with KNX system from Schneider Electric, it uses their last controller on market, called homeLYnk:

http://knx1.org/populair/schneider-electric-homelynk-knx.html
http://www.knx1.org/pdf/manual_homeLYnk.pdf

The electrical panel already has 5 rows and 120 modules, it will be the one from the attachment.
 
I believe that the TV and data ground shall be kept separated from the power ground, possibly with the exception from one point where they enter the apartment/room.

Good luck!
 
Thank you. My questions on this topic got all the answers I've need! :)
 
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The sheild on the coax cable should *not* be connected to ground in your outlet, the only connection to PE should be done in the demarcation point in the buildning (otherwise you will create a ground loop through the coax cable (potentialutjämning) and that's not an good idea as Bo stated above.

I think you could reduce the number of outlets by building your own speaker outlet, if you take a "blank outlet" (blindlock) and mount two XLR conenctors side by side you can use one for the front speakers and one for the rear speakers (you have to use a four pole connector)

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